I think you should be considering that no matter how reasonable and logical your wife and her friend might sound, ultimately women are fickle.  I am not a fan of men these days, but I am a woman, and I have been propositioned like this before; have even very, very strongly considered it... in the end, I couldn't do it because of my own insecurities.  Not every woman is the same as me, but many are.  It could destroy a 15 year union in the time it takes you to get your rocks off. 

HAHA!

this is funny! but weird,lol.and u know how u asked that person y they searched penis?well i didnt search that,i searched dad.cuz i recently wrote a entry about him.

Someone is going to end up pissed, that's what I think.  Maybe one of the guys if there are some sort of insecurity issues like your last comment said, but more likely it will be one of the wives.  Especially if said woman has watched her man bang another woman in front of her.  What if the other woman has a better body and your wife worries that you liked it better?  What if she thinks the other woman gave better head, or maybe that you acted like you were enjoying yourself more with the new woman than you usually do with her (which would be understandable, but not at all acceptable).  If this is done in separate rooms, spouses will want to know every detail imaginable.  Please believe that this will be something that's at the very least a nagging worry in the back of some/all of your minds for a while.

On the other hand though, it can be a huge turn on, especially if you all watch each other.  What a way to spice up the bland old sex life, right?  Speaking from experience here (several experiences), it was a little of both for me.  It turned me on at the time, and it turned me on to think about it later too, but it also made me jealous as f***.  I think it improved our sex life for a while, we would talk about it, get excited, and end up in bed.  I thought about it anyway though, I wondered if he was thinking about her, I wondered if one of them would try to contact the other...

The most important thing is that this is talked about thoroughly beforehand, and that everyone is complete agreement that this is what they really want to do...if it really is, then go for it, just be sure you've all agreed on rules, and about what happens during and after too.  Who knows, it might be fun! 

Well I've never SWAPPED but I did have a threesome with my boyfriend and my best friend which only caused problems, so learn from my experience:

- Don't bring it up again and again, if you guys do it, take it as a once in a lifetime experience. If you keep saying you want to do it again or how fun it was she's going to get jealous
- If they change their mind and decide not to do it, don't pressure them and give them sh*t
- If he's hotter than you, you'll probably end up feeling jealous - like if he's got abs and you have a floppy beer belly you might end up getting embarrassed/jealous etc, it's about more than just the rooster
- Don't do things he doesn't do with his wife - ie if she's not a back door babe with her husband then don't ask her to do that for you

But I think if you guys talk about it maturely and make up some ground rules then it should go over well. Unless one of the 4 is insanely jealous it should all work out

I had an inconsiderate dog owner in my neighbourhood too.  He walked his dog by the house and it shat *every day* and he wouldn't pick it up.  I went to the trouble of standing on my porch and watching him as he walked away, and he still didn't have the good sense to feel like an inconsiderate ass (or if he did he hide it remarkably well).  I decided that a square or two of ex-lax in a yummy treat would be the ticket.  I'm sorry the poor dog had to be given the explosive sh*ts, but I had already taken one on the chin having to pick up the poo before mowing the lawn (otherwise spraying my home, car, and neighbourhood children with pureed mower-scat).  I don't know how effective it was, but I never had to see that guy with his rat-dog again.

It seems a waste to use bacon fat, when one can purchase a pellet gun, and solve the problem from a curtained 2nd story window a la Lee Harvey Oswald.  I don't advocate cruelty to animals so aim for the owner. 

I mean how hard is it to stoop down pick up the crap with a plastic bag and then take said bag and drop it in a garbage can.  So much easier than trying to convince one's self that it's socially acceptable to freckle another person's lawn with faeces.

(Noteworthy: Much like Inuits (allegedly) have 100 words for snow, so it appears I have 100 words for excrement..mom would be so proud..) 

It's so true!!!! It pisses me off that people will spend thousands of dollars on dog clothing and parties. Common, dogs don't give a sh*t about Gucci - but then again, people shouldn't either. It's infuriating that people are wasting their (inherited) money (from daddy) on the stupidest crap, when kids can't even afford food in Africa.

America is an awesome continent (I live in Canada, it's almost the same thing) but we're a plague to the earth because we're greedy and base our entire lives around consumerism.

But hey, at least our women don't get stoned to death ...

Well, just to be honest, I might throw a party for my dog if I thought he might be receptive...but he wouldn't.  He's very spoiled, like my second child, but has serious issues.  He was abandoned/abused, and doesn't deal well with strange people or dogs...

Sadly though, I still fall into your "psychotic" dog party-throwing category, because I'd do it if I could.  Not that I don't realize how ridiculous it is, but still...

when you throw a party for your dog is when you know you have too much money...

LMAO

go for it man ...shave your head

I hate it when men  put fake sh*t on their heads...arrghhh!!

*sigh* I missed you, Hutch.

OMG! Your crazzzzzzy! I love it!!!

lol! the thought of 'finishing him off' did cross my mind before he left, but the idea of him driving home with a boner, i have to admit, did amuse me. i know, i'm such sadist. hey, if he'd asked, i might have; but if you don't ask, you don't get!

Lydia x

Valentines day is for chicks that need reassuring- it blows, completely sucks ass. Im easy, I only want one thing

I agree- BTW are you HUNGRY?

[xXxPodo]

I'm in........ my husband will be thrilled! :)

This is really interesting.  I am sure that men that get that will be delighted.

take care

I'm not a Giants fan, but I would have loved to see anyone kick the sh*t outta the Patriots.  Congrats! 

Oh and yeah, Belichick is a pussy.

wow, this post made me feel very cynical about men! your advice is probably true and your perspective on men and women seems valid - i just can't help but wish it weren't true! i wish that everything could be perfect and romantic, like in films and on tv. i even feel a little guilty, as a girl, having expected so much of the guys i've been with, when really i should have told them what i wanted. because in not doing so...i set myself up for disappointment. i'm kind of glad i read this (even though i think i knew some of it in the back of my mind, just didn't want to admit it) so thanks :)

Lydia x

25-Brilliant

31 & 32--Hilarious

40--um.....eww

42--LMMAO!!!

For the most part I say HEAR, HEAR

There are some sensitive men, though, and I figure that if their hearts are not in it, that they will forget....

Beware the woman who goes on and on, though. Men switch off pretty quickly. Who likes to be told negative things about themselves all night long? Say what you want to say, and keep quiet. If it means something, he will act.

I have a communications class and we talked about this exact thing the other day

Basically what it comes down to, is that women and men and exceptionally different at communicating.  Women want details, they want emotions, they want to talk things through, they want feedback.  Men want information, they want the facts, and then they want a solution.  That simple.

I hate when I hear other women say, "Men just don't care" or "He doesn't respect my feelings".  These women just need to realize that fundamentally, men will not do the things that you fantasize bc they NEVER think about those things themselves.  So many women feel like they need to be swept off of their feet, but I think that they need to understand that by bitching and nagging about what he doesn't do that you're not making him want to do the things that you want him to do.

I think you were exactly right.  All women should know, after even a short time spent around men, that they are clueless when it comes to what makes us feel special (by "feel special" of course I mean "want to give up the good sex).  I also agree though, that if you tell a man exactly what makes you happy, what makes you feel good, what you want, he will go out of his way to do it for you. 

To expect him to "know" you want soft music and dancing when you walk in the door?  Ha, the idea will never even cross his mind...and that's ok, as long as when you tell him that's what you want, he's willing to give it to you. 

I personally liked the advice you gave her.  I dont get why some people have to become  so hostile geesh.  You can either take the advice or just ignore it. 

When a man is watching sports, playing xbox or playstation 3 any attempt of talking with them is completely futile.

Now I have a favor to ask you.  Give me advice on my ex.  Yeah we didnt make it as a couple but I still want to know why he is such a dumbass. PLEASE!!!ADVICE.

So we have known each other for over a year, we met online.  then we met on person.  We spent a month together getting to know each other .  He behaved like a prick... end of story. 6 months later he calls me  out of the blue and apologizes his head off in every single way he could and for every single nasty thing he did to me.  So we start talking.  He wants me to go visit him, 2 months pass before I can go visit him.  It is for his bday. he didnt show up at the airport so I ended being rescued by his mom.  He appears 2 days later because he is out of town but forgot to tell me... he apologizes his head off and compliments my new hair color ( I almost fainted cuz he noticed..from the shock that is)  we spend two days together unfortunately he has a bruised rib and a cold.  He hardly speaks to me , so when I go to the bedroom to watch tv as he plays xbox he comes looking for me asking me why I left him alone, then the day of the party he totally ignores me but pulls me aside to tell me that I should move to that state to be closer to him....There is no sex because of the crimson tide but we kiss and cuddle, he said it is no big deal.  Due to his behaviour at the bday party I leave that night and dont speak to him.  My question is  why would he want me there if he was ignoring me and why appear after such a long time just to ignore me...and why want me to move there  if he ignores me????  I think I dont understand men.  Am I overreacting?  Or is he an a**h***?

thanks

c.

it's great advice. Now she just needs to shut up and listen to it.

Great story !!  I find that my dildos "get legs" and disappear also.

Hmmmm...........

Hey -

My goodness, haha. How gross. I would be horrified to find a dildo in my sister's room, even if it was still packaged up. Your siblings are meant to be asexual!

THEN.. Why take it? Obviously my sister would be aware that she had at some point purchased the item in question. Wouldn't she wonder where it was?

AND.. Why would Mum use a second hand dildo? That's so gross, haha.

Ash

OH MY FREKKIN GOD!!!!!!

This is hilarious and very interesting.

I never thought a dildo would inspire  any man like this.

So basically the main issue would be where is the rooster when it is needed? Right?

c.

[ladyofthelake]

The emotional ties of TY... your a softie arnt ya? Sadly, I must admit, I missed it. Watched Bobby Z and it was sin-sational. Action packed, lust filled movie- left my heart warm and content. Ooops, that could of been because of Chuck Liddell- sinfully hot!

Damn that bullhorn...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xq_xpCs9jw

I loveee that show and whoever isnt moved by it and gets teary eyes needs a heart tansplant...Ty Penningtons is sexy

hugs

[ladyofthelake]

we are just friends i thought..

but he hates me now  i guess soo

w/e!

f*** ME RUNNING- it completely changes my WORD!

C*CK..... thats what I SAID!!!!!!!!!

umm.

hes not my ex.

we never dated.

dont u mean when the pats win

and the packs laugh at ur team cause there was one luckt kick the whole game

that was all luck yesterday, ppl here were hugging there tvs for hope, i bet u guys are so little of fans u didnt do anything more then cheer

and we prefer the term cheese head, or packers

green bay is to dull

"We are the cheese heads, we bleed green and gold, we are the packer fans, GO PACK GO!!!"

btw u guys will lose to the patriots

lol another Giant fan...

good luck

c.

hahahaha

thanks

I know that not all men are like that but his type follow me around...I guess it is the nice girl image...which gives them the challenge to see if little miss sunshine can be  turned into little miss vixen...hahahahaha

c.

1. What do you thnk about sex on the first date?
Never gonna happen for me

where in new york are you located? I'm originally from new york.

1. What do you thnk about sex on the first date?
It'll never happen so I'll never find out.

2. Do you discuss your sexual fantasies with your partner?
absolutely

3. Have you ever faked an org**m?
hounestly, I don;t think I know a girl who hasn't.

4. Do you consider yourself sexually adventurous?
Yeah.

5. Have you ever cheated on your significant other?
I don't really count it as cheating, when the ass hole sticks his dick in every woman in our zip code. He got what was coming to em'.

6. How often do you think about sex?
Wouldn't mind some right now.

7. How often do you want to have sex?
Just about every night...

8. How often do you have sex?
Depends. Two days ago, had sex twice in one hour. Last night none!

9. Do you visit sex websites?
nope. I prefer the real thing.

10. Do you consider that cheating?
nope. I'm sure my man has a ton of dirty videos he's probably wacking off to while I'm at work. Do I care? no.

11. Do you think that watching porn with your couple is a good idea?
no.

12. Are you satisfied with your sex life?
definately.

13. What do you do when your sex drive is bigger than that of your partners?
ha... tell him to get on his back

14. How do you make sure your partner is completely satisfied?
that's never been an issue

15. What is the kinkiest thing you've ever done?
dress up sex in the back of an alley way of a very popular dance club. very drunk.

what do you mean you had me at exotic dancer??

xxMelody

Hey -

My Dad has this problem, and he's only 55. He gets random, really long hairs on his eyebrows that my stepmother just yanks out at any time.

He also has the same problem with his chest hair that sticks over the top of his shirt.

Ash

I know how it looks from your point of view about how Lenny treats me. Yes there are a lot of times when I wish I ahd chosen somebody else, than there are times when he's the greatest thing that's ever happened to me, and as long as I can continue feeling those feelings, I'm not ready to let it go. The past month or two has been nothing but hell with him, and yes it is his fault, but I also blame it on his family, and his mental health. I love him though, and 90% of the time, he makes me happy. Sometimes I just have to suck it up and eat the other 10%.

I kind of feel like this list should be reversed to fit my last relationship. Just to tell him him to LET. sh*t. GO.

you know I as a Lady often try to do some of those things you have said like... I have tried Warning my husband I might be cranky for the next week and yet he doesn't understand when I throw the plate on the floor and break it on purpose becuase he complains it wasn't cleaned right! i have tried the unexpected sex thing too... in the shower... my husband says there isn't enough room... during football... he's watching the game you get the idea. As for him he actually is pretty good he tells his friends I trained him well... i am not sure if this is a compliment or an insult.

Any way I loved the entry and I am GLAD to have you back!

I never wear white!!!!

and I never underestimate that

thanks

c.